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BPA trading room Q&A: May 8, 2015
BPA 交易室问答：2015 年 5 月 8 日
How many points would you say a beginner should shoot for in a day and in a month? On average, how many are you able to make in a month, looking at what is realistic? [Slang info: To “make your nut” is to break even, anything beyond that is profit. Historically, the ‘nut’ is thought to refer to the wheels of a wagon or carriage; when a carnival or circus set up in a town, officials would take a nut from the carriage wheel to prevent the performers from leaving without settling outstanding bills.]
你认为新手一天和一个月内应该追求多少点数？从现实角度来看，你平均一个月能赚多少点？[俚语信息：“make your nut” 意为收支平衡，超过这个就是利润。历史上，“nut” 被认为是指马车或马车的车轮；当马戏团或马戏团在一个城镇设立时，官员会从马车轮上取下一个螺母，以防止表演者未结清未付账单就离开。]
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Going for points vs structured good trades
追求点数 vs 结构化优质交易
I don’t look at it in terms of that. We hear traders sometimes talk about my nut – what is my nut? Did I make my nut today? Traders know what an average day for them is, and every trader is different. And for some traders, it might be two or three points; other traders, it might be 10 points; some traders, it might be 15 or 20 points. And everybody has a different expectation of what average is for them. And if you’re starting out, I would never be thinking about points because points is another word for money, and if you’re thinking about money, you’re gonna mess up and you’re gonna lose money.
我不是从这个角度来看待问题的。我们经常听到交易者谈论他们的“nut”（收支平衡点）——我的 nut 是多少？我今天实现了我的 nut 了吗？交易者知道他们平均一天的情况是怎样的，每个交易者都不同。对于某些交易者来说，可能只有两三点；对于其他交易者来说，可能是 10 点；还有一些交易者，可能是 15 或 20 点。每个人对自己平均水平的期望都不同。如果你刚开始交易，我绝不会考虑点数，因为点数就是金钱的代名词，如果你考虑金钱，你就会搞砸，你就会亏钱。
What I would be thinking about as a beginner is “Did I take a trade that made sense? Did I manage it properly? What would I have done differently? Did I get out too early? Did I get in too early? Did I get out too late?” Those would be the things that I would be thinking about. I would not be thinking about “Do I really need to make three points today?” Because if you start focusing in on profit targets and goals, you’ll be so consumed by making a certain amount of money that you’ll end up missing trades that you should be taking, you’ll end up taking trades that you should not be taking, and you’ll lose money.
作为一名新手，我会考虑的是：“我做的这笔交易是否有意义？我管理得当吗？我会做些什么不同的事情？我出手太早了吗？我进场太早了吗？我出手太晚了吗？”这些就是我会考虑的事情。我不会考虑“我今天真的需要赚三点吗？”因为如果你开始专注于利润目标和指标，你就会被赚取一定金额的欲望所消耗，最终错过你本应该做的交易，做一些你不应该做的交易，并亏钱。
I think that it’s much better to focus on doing the right thing. You can pretty much buy or sell anytime during the day. Ninety percent of the bars of the day are in channels or in a trading range. And when that’s the case, you can buy or sell if you could scale in and manage your trades correctly. Ten percent of the bars of the day look like this: a strong break up. You have a strong break out here, and then we have a strong break out here. So of the 81 bars that we look at right here, we have three or four strong break out bars, and then 75 trading range or channel bars.
我认为专注于做正确的事情要好得多。你几乎可以在白天任何时间买入或卖出。一天中 90% 的 K 线都在通道或交易区间内。在这种情况下，如果你能正确地分批建仓和管理交易，你就可以买入或卖出。一天中 10% 的 K 线看起来像这样：强劲的上涨突破。这里有一个强劲的突破，然后我们这里又有一个强劲的突破。所以在我们这里观察的 81 根 K 线中，有 3 或 4 根强劲的突破 K 线，然后是 75 根交易区间或通道 K 线。
Trade management
交易管理
With trading range and channel bars, you have a lot of flexibility if you manage your trade correctly. You can pretty much buy or sell — at any time — if you manage your trade correctly . And even if you sold down here [bar 8] and sold more up here [bar 30], you would have gotten out with a small profit. Even if you bought up here [bar 29/30] and bought more down here [bar 60-62], you would have gotten out with a profit. So to me, the focus should be much more on how do I structure a trade, and then once I’m in the trade, how I manage the trade. And that should be your only thought all day long. And never look back and say, “Oh, I messed up or lost money. I got to make up that lost money.” No, you — you don’t do that. You just try to stay calm, stay peaceful, be respectful of yourself, accept that you’re not perfect, that you’re going to make mistakes, and that’s just part of trading, and don’t dwell on it. Just accept that it’s going to happen, and just try to make yourself better.
在交易区间和通道K线里，只要你正确管理交易，你就有很大的灵活性。只要你正确管理交易，你基本上可以在任何时候买入或卖出。即便你在此卖出 [8号K线]，又在此再卖出 [30号K线]，你也能以小利润离场。即便你在此买入 [29/30号K线]，又在此再买入 [60-62号K线]，你也能以利润离场。对我来说，重点应该更多地放在如何构建交易上，然后一旦进入交易，如何管理交易。这应该是你一天中唯一的念头。永远不要回头说，“哦，我搞砸了或亏了钱。我得把亏的钱赚回来。”不，你 — 你不会那样做。你只需尽量保持冷静，保持宁静，尊重自己，接受自己不完美，接受会犯错，这只是交易的一部分，不要纠结。只需接受这会发生，只需努力让自己变得更好。
It’s just like how you should be in life in general. You should always be trying to make yourself better in every way, try to become a better person. And you’ll be happier. The people around you will be happier. With trading – same thing – just focus on doing the right thing and don’t have any regrets. As long as you’re trying hard, you should expect nothing more than just trying to be good – just trying to do the right thing.
这就像你在生活中应该做的那样。你应该一直在各方面努力让自己变得更好，努力成为一个更好的人。你会更快乐。你身边的人也会更快乐。在交易中也是如此 — 只要专注于做正确的事，不要有任何后悔。只要你在努力，你就不应期待比“努力做好、努力做正确的事”更多的东西。
How many points a day?
一天多少点？
So, in terms of the number of points, really good traders, a lot of times, think about points in terms of an average day’s range. So one trader might take more swings and fewer trades, might say, “Okay, the average range is 12 points. I usually try to make about half of an average day’s range in a day.” Another trader might say, “I scalp like crazy and the average day’s range is 12 points — I usually try to make one-and-a-half to two times the average day’s range in a day.”
就点数而言，优秀的交易者经常会把点数看作平均日内区间的一个衡量。一个交易者可能会做更多的波段、更少的交易，他说：“好吧，平均日内区间是 12 点。我通常在一天内尝试赚取大约平均日内区间的一半。”另一个交易者可能会说：“我像疯狂一样剥头皮，平均日内区间是 12 点——我通常在一天内尝试赚取平均日内区间的一倍半到两倍。”
And I think a trader could be thinking about it anywhere in that range. However, as I said, I don’t know of any successful trader who’s thinking, “Oh, my gosh, I got to make $3,000 today, or I got to make $5,000 today.” Traders — all they think about is “Did I manage that trade correctly?” and that should be the focus. “Where is my stop? Where is a reasonable target? If it’s not performing the way that I want it to perform, how do I get out? Do I get out now? Do I give it more time?” And you never know with certainty, at any time, whether or not what you’re doing is right, but you just rely on your read, you trust your read, and you don’t worry if you lose money. The reality is you’re going to lose money. Some of the time, you read wrong or the market takes a low probability path. You are right in your read that it most likely was going to do X and instead it did Y, and that’s okay. That’s just part of trading.
我认为交易者可以在这个区间内的任何地方思考这个问题。然而，正如我所说的，我不知道有哪个成功的交易者会想：“哦，天哪，我今天必须赚3000美元，或者我今天必须赚5000美元。”交易者——他们所想的只是“我是否正确地管理了这笔交易？”这应该是重点。“我的止损点在哪里？合理的目标位在哪里？如果它没有按我想要的方式表现，我该如何退出？我现在就退出吗？我给它更多时间吗？”你永远无法确定你在任何时候所做的事情是否正确，但你只需依赖你的判断，相信你的判断，不要担心亏损。现实情况是，你会亏损。有时候，你的判断是错误的，或者市场走了一条低概率的路径。你判断正确，认为它很可能做 X，但它却做了 Y，这没关系。这只是交易的一部分。
Al Brooks
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