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BPA trading room Q&A: February 11, 2015
BPA 交易室问答:2015年2月11日
How long did it take you to become consistently profitable after you started trading? Audio duration: 5min 28sec — Scroll down for images
您开始交易后,多久才能实现持续盈利?音频时长:5分28秒 — 向下滚动查看图片
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I lost money for probably 10 years, and my problem was – it wasn’t that I was not smart enough; it was probably that I was too smart. I kept studying everything, reading all these books, reading all these magazines, listening to people on television, and accepting what they were saying was true, and I had problems with all of it. It just didn’t make sense to me, like divergences with, indicators and moving averages – waiting for moving average crosses. I’d look at the markets and I’d say, “Wait a minute, what they’re saying, it doesn’t make sense. Markets are doing the opposite of what they’re saying. You know, I have divergences on stochastics at the market top, the market keeps going up most of the time.”
我亏损了大约10年,问题在于——我不够聪明?不,或许是我太聪明了。我一直在学习一切,读这些书,读那些杂志,听电视上的人说的,接受他们说的是真的,结果我对所有事情都有问题。这对我来说完全说不通,就像指标和均线的背离——在等待均线交叉。我看着市场,会说:“等等,他们说的不对头。市场在做他们所说的相反的事。你知道,我在市场顶部的随机指数上看到背离,市场大多数时间仍然在上涨。”
So anyway, it took me a long time to get the confidence to say, “I’m not going to listen to anyone.” And what I decided to do was go back to basics. I got rid of everything on the chart; all the indicators, even the moving averages, and I just looked at bars, and I began to look for patterns, and I began to see a lot of patterns. I also did probably 10,000 hours of back testing of all kinds of trading ideas, so I started getting confidence in doing what I thought was right, even if it appeared to be wrong. So when I see this big sell-off, I’m starting to look to buy, and when I see this, I’m definitely buying.
总之,我花了很长时间才有信心说:“我不会听任何人的。” 我决定回到基础层面。我清除了图表上的所有内容,包括所有指标,甚至均线,只关注K线,开始寻找形态,并发现了许多形态。我还对各种交易想法进行了大约10,000小时的回测,因此我开始对做我认为正确的事情充满信心,即使它看起来是错误的。所以当我看到这种大幅抛售时,我开始寻找买入机会,当我看到这种情况时,我肯定会买入。
So there were a whole bunch of things that I started seeing happening time and time again that were pretty much the opposite of what I was reading about and what I was seeing on television; I decided to just throw away everything that I had spent so many years to learn and I just became a purist, a price action purist. Obviously, one of the reasons why I’m talking in the webinar, one of the reasons why I write books, and articles, and videos is, you know, I don’t want other people to go through all the garbage that I had to go through to get to where I am. And that goes back to my childhood. I grew up poor. There was six of us in a thousand-square-foot house with one bathroom and no shower. I wanted to go to Harvard; didn’t get into Harvard. Back then, in the ‘60s, they weren’t taking very many poor kids, especially – so I didn’t get in and I always felt kind of shut out and I always felt like it was hard to get ahead. And once I did get ahead, I’ve been trying really hard to help people, and I help my kids, and my fiancé’s kids, and they’re all doing great – and I like it; it makes me feel good.
所以我开始发现有很多事情一再发生,而这些事情与我在书上读到的和电视上看到的几乎完全相反;我决定抛弃我花了这么多年时间学习的一切,成为一个纯粹主义者,一个价格行为的纯粹主义者。显然,我在网络研讨会上发言、写书、写文章和制作视频的原因之一是,我不希望其他人经历我所经历的那些垃圾才能到达我现在的位置。这可以追溯到我的童年。我出身贫寒。我们六个人住在一个一千平方英尺的房子里,只有一个卫生间,没有淋浴。我想去哈佛,但没能进去。那时是60年代,他们不招收太多穷孩子,尤其是——所以我没能进去,我总是感到被排斥,总是觉得很难取得进步。一旦我取得了进步,我就一直在努力帮助别人,我帮助我的孩子,我未婚妻的孩子,他们都做得很好——我喜欢这样,这让我感觉很好。
I think back to when I was a kid and I didn’t have the help that I needed at the time to do what I wanted to do, so now I try to help people. I’m hoping that people do not need 10 years to figure it out. Also, what I’m saying, if you just listen to what I say and look at the charts, you say, “Yeah, what he’s saying is right. That’s what the charts are doing. That’s what the traders are doing; that’s what the computers are doing. So, in a way, it gives you an opportunity to become profitable in a lot less time than 10 years.
我回想起小时候,那时我没有得到当时需要的帮助来做我想做的事,所以现在我尽力去帮助别人。我希望人们不需要花10年时间才能搞清楚这一点。此外,我想说的是,如果你只是听我说的话,看看图表,你会说:“是的,他说的是对的。这就是图表在做的事。这就是交易者在做的事;这就是计算机在做的事。所以,从某种意义上说,这给你提供了一个机会,让你在远远少于10年的时间内实现盈利。
For me, that was my path. I know a lot of traders who have studied my stuff, my ideas, have become extremely profitable in much less time. It is kind of a short cut, but it takes a lot of work. And a lot of it – most traders are never going to see. All of the stuff that I’m explaining down here about what’s going on with the bears, most traders at Goldman Sachs have no clue about what I’m talking about. But what I’m saying is real, and it’s very real.
对我而言,这就是我的道路。我知道很多研读我资料、我思想的交易者在更短时间内变得极其盈利。这某种程度上是捷径,但需要大量的工作。其中很多——大多数交易者永远看不到。我在这里解释的关于空头发生的一切,高盛的大多数交易者对我的说法一无所知。但我说的是事实,而且是非常真实的。
You don’t need to know it to be a profitable trader, but if you do know it, the more little things like that that you know – the more opportunities, the more trades you’ll see during the day. On an average day on the five-minute chart, I’d probably see 40 or 50 trades on the five-minute chart. They’re just all over the place, but you have to understand price action to see them. Some of them you don’t really need. Bar 39, you just sell and go for a walk, come back in a half hour.
您不必知道这些才能成为盈利交易者,但如果您知道,您掌握的这类细节越多——机会就越多,当天看到的交易也就越多。在五分钟图表上的平均一天,我可能会看到40或50笔交易。它们随处可见,但您必须理解价格行为才能发现它们。其中有些您其实不需要。39号K线,您只需卖出然后去走走,半小时后回来。
Bar 54, you just buy, go for a walk, come back in a half hour. And you can do very well. So here (bar 39) you sell, you put a stop above here and place a limit order to buy 4 points lower. Here (bar 54), you buy anywhere; you buy the high of the bar, the close of the bar, and you walk away, come back, a half hour later, have a limit order to take profits at four points. And on those two trades alone, you make eight points.
54号K线,你只需要买入,然后去散步,半小时后回来。你就能做得很好。所以这里(39号K线)你卖出,止损设置在上方,并下达限价单在4点下方买入。这里(54号K线),你可以在任何地方买入;买入该K线的最高点,买入该K线的收盘价,然后离开,半小时后回来,设置限价单在4点处获利了结。仅凭这两笔交易,你就能赚8点。
So you don’t need to see 40 trades a day to make money, but when you DO see a trade, you need to take the trade. And you don’t even have to take every one, you don’t even have to take half of them, as long as you don’t take the dumb stuff.
所以你不需要每天看40笔交易才能赚钱,但当你确实看到一笔交易时,你需要执行这笔交易。你甚至不需要执行每一笔交易,你甚至不需要执行其中一半的交易,只要你不执行那些愚蠢的交易就可以了。
And one of the things beginners do – it’s like flies being drawn to those fly-zapping lights. When beginners see this, they say, “Oh, thank goodness; the market’s getting quiet so it’s safer to trade.” Well, yes, the bars are smaller so the risk is less, however the probability is less as well, and entering with stops when the market looks like this is deadly. So for a lot of traders, this is where they start trading. And they start entering with stops using protective stops that are too tight and they lose money. And I make that point all the time.
初学者做的事情之一,就像苍蝇被吸引到灭蝇灯一样。当初学者看到这种情况时,他们会说:“哦,谢天谢地,市场变得安静了,所以交易更安全了。”是的,K线变小了,风险也变小了,但概率也变小了,在市场看起来像这样的时候用止损入场是致命的。所以对于很多交易者来说,这就是他们开始交易的地方。他们开始使用过紧的保护性止损入场,并因此亏损。我一直强调这一点。
If you’re entering with stops in a tight trading range, you have to use a swing stop. That’s the only way you have a chance to make any money. And you can scalp using a swing stop, especially if you’re scaling in, but you cannot look at this and say, “Oh gosh, finally it’s not scary. I can finally sell or buy. I’ll use a tight stop because I don’t want to risk anything.” No, you can’t do that, right? That’s not what the market is calling for. You have to use the appropriate stop. If you’re too uncomfortable using the appropriate stop, you have to trade much smaller or you have to wait for a different trade.
如果你在窄幅交易区间内用止损入场,你必须使用波段止损。这是你有机会赚钱的唯一方法。你可以用波段止损进行短线交易,尤其是在分批建仓时,但你不能看着这个说:“哦,天哪,终于不吓人了。我终于可以卖出或买入了。我会使用紧止损,因为我不想承担任何风险。”不,你不能这样做,对吧?这不是市场所要求的。你必须使用适当的止损。如果你使用适当的止损感到不舒服,你必须交易更小规模,或者你必须等待不同的交易机会。
Al Brooks
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